Comments on: Avs Still Have Work to Do After Coyle, Wood, and Brindley Trade https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/ The home of Aarif Deen and the best coverage of the Colorado Avalanche Mon, 30 Jun 2025 16:51:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: AmberHanran https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78760 Mon, 30 Jun 2025 16:51:31 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78760 In reply to Blake martinez.

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By: Brett https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78706 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:00:49 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78706 In reply to Jeremy.

I’m not trying to dodge the question. I wasn’t the one who suggested buying out Wood’s contract. There were rumors that other teams had very little interest in him. If you were the GM of another team, would you have taken on a $2.5M player for four more years, a player who is frequently injured and ended the season in the press box?

Every team has its own context, of course, but it’s safe to say there wasn’t a lineup of suitors for Wood. And as for attaching a pick just to unload him… what pick, exactly? The team had virtually no draft capital available before trading Coyle.

Coyle didn’t deliver the playoff performance people expected, but the decision to move him goes well beyond that. What’s his real role in the lineup? What kind of responsibilities and usage does the team envision for him? Clearly, the answers to those questions didn’t justify a $5.25M cap hit within the current roster structure.

As for Girard, he’s a top-4 defenseman in his prime, while Manson has been struggling to keep up for several seasons now and yet, you seem oddly fixated on Girard. The reality is, if you trade Girard, the Manson problem still exists.

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By: Jeremy https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78665 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 15:23:46 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78665 In reply to Brett.

I love how you keep glossing over the idea of trading Wood on his own with a pick to another team. Buying him out would’ve just been a last resort.

Yes, Coyle had a rough series. But was that about him? Or more about him being saddled with two wings who were straight ass/useless in that series in Drouin & Kiviranta? And the 4th line wasn’t getting broken up because they were awesome. So where was he suppose to play Coyle?

You clearly LOVE Girard, which is fine. I just think their D – core needs a revamp & they should start with him. It’s not so much an indictment of him as it is they need something different on that 2nd pair. It is possible to find a defenseman who isn’t a dwarf who has decent puck skills at Girard’s number or even slightly less.

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By: Jeremy https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78664 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 15:17:25 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78664 In reply to Brad Jacobs.

He wasn’t very good. But big picture the guy is an excellent 3C. Nelson wasn’t very good either it didn’t stop them from giving him 7.5

I’m not saying Coyle is irreplaceable & isn’t slightly overpaid. But they’ve struggled with center depth since the cup win. And 3C, just like 2C has been a black hole since Compher left. Colton was adequate there but isn’t a center & struggled with the defensive aspect of it. So no I’m sorry. I don’t trust Macfarland in a really weak center market to find a guy especially at a cheaper price to be anything close to what Coyle is. And if the plan is to go with Drury to start the year. That’s typical of the bs they’ve been doing since the cup win. Playing guys in the bottom 6 in roles they aren’t fit for. Drury is a hard 4C.

You win in this league up the middle. Look at all the multiple cup winners, Pitt, Tampa, FL. They all had or have in FL’s case great center depth 1 – 4.

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By: Brad Jacobs https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78661 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:22:21 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78661 In reply to Jeremy.

Don’t get the Coyle love. He straight up sucked in the playoffs.

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By: Brett https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78654 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 06:17:26 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78654 In reply to Jeremy.

With a contract buyout for Wood, it would’ve burdened the team’s salary cap for 8 years at close to a million dollars per year. When we know that every dollar counts and that it can be the difference in retaining or acquiring a player, it would’ve been a very poor decision and yet, you still proposed it.

In the last two playoff games, Coyle’s ice time was under 10 minutes. That’s fourth-line usage. A player’s salary should align somewhat with how he’s actually used.

Toews and Makar play together consistently and log close to 30 minutes per game. If their pairing were truly an issue due to a lack of physicality, they would’ve been split up long ago. Girard and Malinski played very well together last season. I’m not saying they’re a flawless duo, but if Girard has a reliable partner with some physical edge on the second pair, that’s an ideal match. Same goes for Malinski on the third pair. Player complementarity is what gives a team strength.

Girard is a known quantity. If MacFarland trades him, he has to replace him with someone better and still address all the other gaps on defense. It’s unlikely that replacing Girard would cost less than 5M. And after trading him, the team is still stuck with Manson who’s injured regularly. I liked Lindgren, but I don’t believe he’s a sustainable second-pair solution in the long term. And if the team signs him in that role, he’ll quickly become overpaid because I’m not convinced he’ll deliver in that position two years from now. During the last playoffs, Lindgren got beat wide by Rantanen and Rantanen isn’t exactly a burner. So yeah, I’m concerned.

When the Avalanche won the Stanley Cup, both Johnsons and Manson were younger, and Toews, Makar, and Byram were all defensemen capable of easily playing 20+ minutes a night. The defensive corps was much deeper back then. Manson can no longer handle a top-four role for 82 games. That’s why someone other than him is needed to play with Girard.

I think you’re underestimating Girard by even wondering how he’d hold up against Florida. He’s a smart defenseman who knows his strengths and weaknesses. He’s adjusted his game to be an efficient NHL defenseman.

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By: Jeremy https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78650 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 03:53:47 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78650 In reply to Ari Sachter-Smith.

Great insight here. Maybe the clown is the guy who defends the executive who gave said player/plug a 6 year deal.

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By: Jeremy https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78649 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 03:52:01 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78649 In reply to Brett.

Well…let’s see. Wood was his horrible signing & buying him out would save them plenty against the cap. Or as I said package him with a pick & send him to a team such as SJ who needs NHL players & has publicly stated they’re willing to take on contracts. The guy makes 2.5, not 9.5. It’s not that hard a contract to move.

I have no clue what you’re going on about regarding Coyle & the 3rd lines ice time. Once Bednar actually had 4 NHL level lines he cut down the TOI of the top 6. And the 3rd line played between 12 – 15 mins a night. Like most 3rd lines do. But again if you have a problem with the coach. Cmac is the guy who Bednar on Sakic’s radar to begin. With. So again…whose fault?

As for your aversion to trading Girard, why? I’m not one of his main detractors. But let’s shoot straight, against teams with bigger physical forward cores he’s a liability. Could you imagine him in a 7 game series against FL? They would eat him alive. I think he’s a really solid top 4 defenseman. But on a team that already lacks size on the back end & has plenty of capable puck moving defenseman with Cale, Toews & now Malinski. He’s a slightly overpaid redundancy on this particular roster. I’m not going to be upset if he’s on the roster still opening night. But you greatly overstate his importance. They won a cup without him for essentially the last 3 rds. And the D core is the same almost to a man minus Jack Johnson that it was then.

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By: Jeremy https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78648 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 03:37:28 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78648 In reply to Ari Sachter-Smith.

Wow…what a genius he took picks & outbid Edmonton for the only viable starting goalie on the trade market! It’s a trade that literally any GM would’ve made. And he should’ve made much..much sooner.

As for Nelson can I borrow your crystal ball? It’s a win already? We haven’t seen him play enough games in an Avs uniform, have no clue how much good hockey he has left at 34, nor have they even won a playoff series with him in the fold yet. Not to mention what becomes of Cal Ritchie at the NHL level. I was fine with the trade & glad they re – signed him. But again..this is after giving away how many assets to try & failing to acquire a 2C?

And are you seriously trying to point to him giving Mackinnon the highest AAV in NHL history as a dub for him as GM? Wtf? That was the most obvious no brainer contract extension in Avs history. Not sure why so many people credit him for being the architect of all the good trades leading up to the cup win. Guess it’s just a complete coincidence that there’s been a huge & noticeable drop-off since he’s become GM in the quality of their trades in acquisitions. Pre – cup they won every deal. Since…not so much.

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By: Ari Sachter-Smith https://coloradohockeynow.com/2025/06/27/avs-still-have-work-to-do-after-coyle-wood-and-brindley-trade/#comment-78644 Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:50:40 +0000 https://coloradohockeynow.com/?p=17086#comment-78644 In reply to Jeremy.

A Wood buyout? That’s a clown suggestion.

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