I don’t remember Dubya ever lacing them up!
Burns is larger and more intimidating than Manson. Josh played 48 games last season, Burns has played 12 years/925 games straight.
He ragdolled Ovechkin a more than a few times during the Canes/caps playoff series, Ovi is older but 240lbs is 240lbs.

I don’t get the fit because he’s a right shot & the guy is still 40. His game could deteriorate rapidly. But if he’s a hard 5/6 & for a million bucks I’m fine with it.

Burns is big but he isn’t physical. As someone else pointed out the dude had 11 hits ALL YEAR. Yes he’s big, but the guy has never been Chris Pronger.

And if the plan is to move Manson to play Burns in the top 4. I’m sorry that’s just dumb. Manson is still when healthy a better defenseman & an actual physical presence.

There were also plenty of better (yes albeit more expensive options) available on July 1. I keep coming back to what are they hoarding all of this cap space for? It can’t be a trade, because any major trade will involve them moving money out. Because they don’t have the assets in picks & prospects to go acquire a 6 – 7 million dollar player.

The bottom of their lineup without Coyle looks devoid of any offensive punch (again in the CMac era a pattern). And we all thought they were going to look at getting another top 4 D. So they didn’t have to rely on Girard & Manson as the 2nd pair. But I guess they Iike Burns that much?

My mistake. Agreed him on the 3rd pair at a million bucks, no issue.

Don’t get the fit??? Let me ask you, age aside – – if someone told you the Avs could trade for a “D” man who played in all 82 games, had 29 points in those 82 games, was physical with experience, would you have signed him? And, he fits in the salary structure? “D” Games Played & Points for the Avs last season – Makar 92/80, Toews 76/44, Girard 73/24, Malinski 76/15, Manson 48/15, Middleton 41/2.

I don’t understand all of Aarif’s consternation on where to play him. He’s an upgrade, period. Makar is wonderful player with great stats. But he sucked against Dallas in the playoffs. I hope this doesn’t become a pattern. Burns adds physicality and most important – smarts, a high hockey IQ. Besides, what are the options left? Keep Manson and try to keep him healthy for the playoffs. The Avs are a different team with him out there. Like I said, not many options for quality “D” men were available.

That was someone else talking about moving Manson. I’d rather keep Manson and have him play fewer minutes. Like you said, no big deal if the cap hit is a million. I’d rather have Burns than Ceci, who robbed LA for $3.6m x 4. Absurd.

Ok….point being? He played forward literally during the George W Bush years. It’s pretty irrelevant to anything having to do with him at 40 now.

The fact that he’s 40 lol. And he can be a defensive liability, is what’s not to like. I don’t personally care about any offensive upside he provides. But for a million bucks if it doesn’t work for whatever reason or he’s washed, it’s not going to hurt their cap situation. So 🤷. But….if they turn around & trade Manson & try to go with him in the top 4. I hate this.

I guess I just wonder why not focus their attention at getting someone younger who’s more of a defensive stalwart. And preferably a left handed shot.

In a perfect world I would love to see the Avs trade Necas and Manson for Colton parayko and then trade Nabokov for Aleski Protas. I know a lot of guys want Nabokov to be our next star goaltender but we are in a championship window right now so I think getting Protas as our 3C would make us a killer squad. Only question would be who is playing the wing on the third line. If somehow we could get Ehjlers then that would push Colton to third line. We are all filled up. (Fair warning I did no cap math with this so if salary retention needs to happen anywhere on that line then we could throw in picks to facilitate that)

Ehjlers-MacK-Lehkonen
Landy-Nelson-Nuke
Kiviranta-Protas- Colton
Kelly-Drury-LOC

Makar-Toews
Girard-Parayko
Burns-Malinski

Trade necas to ducks for lacombe and nesterenko

Toews makar
Lacombe burns
Gustaffson malinski